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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 07:55:00 -
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Maiwenn LeBesco - Hegemonic Core, part of XETIC.
ProphetGuru - Apathy looks cool huh 
Homo Erectus -
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you don't know what is factual and what isn't.
hehe...yes, I obviously don't know and you do. Sounds like the beginning of a justification. Though evolution didn't care?
You KOS is mighty fat now...just like a pirate corp.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:27:00 -
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We told you that to avoid losses, stay out of warzones. You kept going into them.
Indeed we did and still do.
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We told you that you could have asked us if it was safe. You didn't and got repeatedly killed.
No you didn't. You said to get out of the warzone or be shot.
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We told you to stay away from us to avoid deaths. I guess that was too hard.
Yes, many indies died. Many at jumping points like mine without any warning but then we should of not been there.
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Now you have resolved to take an action that will cost you even more ships than before.
Umm... -10 rating is on our corp you hypocrite. We have not changed ours yet.
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I cannot understand the logic.
Obiviously. You see sometimes, people don't get threatened into leaving any area you decide to move to.
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"Leaving" XETIC is an unabashed tactic the same as people leaving their corporations in empire space to have the police fight for them. This tells us that you will use your mains to fight while your alts remain in XETIC.
Er...that logic again is killing you. Why would we do that?
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You didn't try all that you could to avoid a fight Xenius.
What complete and utter nonsense. Your the ones shooting, we have been the ones trying to avoid war, we are the ones with the -10 rating and on your KOS list and we did not do enough. What amazing logic.
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In fact, the only thing you really did try was to present causus bellum after repeated lapses of judgement that resulted in losses. You wanted justification for declaring hostility to us from the first time that your own negligence caused your own death.
Oh thats rich. We er..deliberately got blown up in our ark filled indies so we could declare war on you more legitamately. That would explain why we are -10 on your standing huh and ours are neutral towards you still. Can this get anymore laughable.
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It is apparent that your pride suffered because we treated you just like how we would treat any other person. Everything afterward were just set pieces to use for your justification. This is why your members never did know any better than to jump into death zones or to contact us prior to going into them. I'd hazard a guess you told them that we had a NAP with XETIC because Stain had a NAP with XETIC and to not fear hostilities from any sides in the Curse conflict if only to increase their angst after they inevitably get killed for being in a warzone.
I'm pleased to see evolution is coming here in hordes trying to justify themselves yet again out of a hopelessly self evidence situation. The fact is that your KOS list is getting longer and longer which illustrate how seriously people take your 'warzone' argument. We decided to stay and ignore your threats for us to leave, you fired upon us in returned and have now put us on YOUR kos list.
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There are many many corporations out there who are on good terms with us. It is surprisingly easy to be on good terms with us that those who are not make a conscious effort to be that way for whatever reason they have.
Firstly, we tried this path. I contact strike to simple allow us to coexist here and told him I would ignore the current lose of indies. He told me to get out. The only way was to leave the region or fight CA.
Let me say another thing. For a corp that really does not care, I've never seen anyone post as much pathetic dribble trying to justify their violence towards others than evolution. You just keep fattening up that KOS list.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 10:41:00 -
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u were told countless times to stop warping to gates ALONGSIDE CA ships but u never took any notice. You still carried on when we told u that we would shoot your ships aswell if we saw them warping around with CA ships, but u still carried on.
Oh..our indies now warp alongside CA ships and thats why they got shot. This is really getting desperate.
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I guess u actually joined the CA along time ago but tried to stay neutral by using a another alliance as cover
Your guessing is obvious not your best talent. What SA ships have we killed smart guy?
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:07:00 -
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I just find it very suspicious how often a Xetic "trader" will enter one of our camped systems and take an inordinate amount of time passing through.
That's taking into account the slowness of the indy.
Another worrying thing occured yesterday. I logged into U-Q and saw a nice SA presence there. I asked, in local, if they knew what the CA presence was like in Curse but, before any of SA could answer, a Matari Backbone member answered that "everything was clear upto V-UIEL".
Surely neutrality requires your members NOT to answer such questions?
Well, he did not give you the composition or location of CA fleets. Don't you think more worrying was the time greenhornet of EV or whatever his name is, nailed 3 indies in one day? THATS a violation
Look. The only this that annoys me is arrogance and clear dishonesty. That MASS pilot claiming our indies fly with CA ships. Did you see that matari indy with a CA escort? Its blatant lies and simply because this guy is arguing for your side, you don't correct him.
Evolution is an corp that kills neutrals when it does not have to. Hence their long KOS list. My aim here is entirely to illustrate this to the neutral corps that don't know this.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:20:00 -
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Joining CA means guaranteed podding by Evol, SA, FA, CC etc whereas before it meant only Evol podding you.
Can't see the logic behind such a move unless you fully intended to join CA anyway and you're just using this to stir up a long of propaganda.
We did NOT join CA. Colossus Tech left XETIC and joined CA. We are not Colossus Tech.
This post is about evolution and their KOS list and one gets on it.
I'm glad no one you guys are real politicans.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:40:00 -
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Mordessa, its always refreshing to see a more friendly view in evolution but with all due respect, I did talk to Strike and he refused. His position was that we will be shot at if in Catch.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 11:54:00 -
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How are we to know CT will not simply continue their current practiced mining ops in Xetic space and the benefits then be carried to our enemies in the CA?
If CT continues to travel the same routes into Curse from Xetic space alside now both CA ships and Xetic ships targeting confusions, which do exist, will become more complicated.
We must insist that to clearly maintain Xetic neutrality the CT must no longer have anything to do with Xetic space lanes and should remove themselves entirely from Xetic space. This is the only way we could continue to trust Xetic neutrality following such a defection.
If CT are to leave and join the war they need to 100% leave. This is just an opinion and recommendation. Any action would be up to you.
Bach, thats perfectly understandable. CT is CA now due to their own decision and under the NAP, they are not allowed to mine in Immensea or take part in our operations.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 13:37:00 -
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army of ninja ghandi warriors
ROFL ... I wet my pants.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:39:00 -
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so what if the fleet is Evol and SA ? are u just gona shoot evolution ? Evolution and Stain alliance do operations in curse together "sometimes" how do u think this will effect your standings towards SA ?
What you want us to do? Your ally just put us on their KOS list. Might of been better to talk to your allies to avoid these complications. Obviously we are going to avoid SA forces and stick to the NAP.
There is already trouble on your side. Lord Zith of the Collective fired on our ship. The collective is clearly SA and yet we have a standing of -10 to them and from Zith own message,
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2004.01.12 04:50:00
Your corp has a -10 standing to my corp and it is my duty to kill all my corps enemys
Another NAP problem.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.01.12 14:58:00 -
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Lord zith has no respect for anything out there :) u should here us on teamspeak talking him out of killing ppl :)
and i am from The Collective aswell and we have a NAP with Xetic alliance.
Well, thats good to know. Perhaps changing that -10 to a 0 might assist Lord Zith in the future. Make sense to me. 
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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